The following parts are all available as spare parts, plus replacement fly screens - for CAMEC windows.
1) With window open, drill rivets from wind out arms.
2) Pull both wind out arms free.
3) While holding window at horizontal, gently tap window sideways with a block of wood. Tap against the solid section, NOT the edge. Check which direction the window will slide without running into an annex rail or other obstruction.
4) Catch End Plug (We also sell these if yours are damaged or lost)
5) Slide window free from frame.
1) Use a flat screwdriver to release top corner of fly screen. Carefully pull to remove complete screen.
2) After you have removed the fly screen, you will be able to access the Winder Control Box screws from the outside of the van.
3) Unscrew top and bottom screws from both Winder Control Boxes.
4) You can remove the cross shaft by pushing into the left winder box, or remove both Winder Control Boxes and the crossbar out as one unit. They can come apart so you need to make sure both boxes stay wound out the same amount for the window to be able to shut again.
When replacing the Caravan Window if you find the window closes at one side before the other, you need to remove one end of the shaft and manually adjust the window so both sides are equal, then replace shaft.
1) Before you are able to disassemble the window you have to remove the Glazing Wedge. This is the rubber that fits between the frame and the glass.
The join is usually found in the centre of the top. Use a flat head screwdriver to start removing the wedge, then pull the rest out by hand.
If the glazing wedge is firm and/or brittle we recommend replacing it.(Search for "Glazing Wedge" on our site). Especially if replacing glass as it can crack during installation of brittle glazing wedge.
The glazing wedge used to hold glass or perspex in place, is not actually the water seal. Water that enters here escapes out the drainage holes.
2) Replacement of wedge can be done on the bench, but we recommend you wait until the window frame is replaced. This prevents the top edge, which is the hinge, becoming bent during the installation or the rubber wedge. When doing as the final step, insure winders are installed correctly and window closed.
To install the new Glazing Wedge, spray the window and frame with some soap and water to help the rubber slide in. The join should be at the top centre. The rubber goes on the exterior of the window. Use a spline roller or a flat head screwdriver to help push the Wedge into place.
To get around a 90 degree corner, make a small cut in back of the wedge and insert in to corner. The round corners should remain uncut. Do NOT stretch new rubber when inserting.
3) After the Glazing Wedge is removed you are able to disassemble the window. Remove the screws from the SIDE at the top corners of the frame. This corner insert can be brittle and if it is the white plastic version, we advise to replace these, see later section.
4) The upper window frame will easily come away from the lower frame and the glass can be removed.
5) The corner inserts can be removed and replaced if damaged. They are available in metal and plastic versions.
To replace a damaged window yourself we recommend changing to perspex especially for older windows that may have a warp or other damage to the frame.
If you wish to stick with glass, then you may need to take the window to a Glazier.
1) Remove and disassemble the window as previously described. Trace the old glass on to a new sheet of 3mm perspex. Or 3mm glass.
2) Score the straight lines part way through from each side. Crack the remainder. Use a laminex cutter.
3) Using the sharp edge of a table line up the score and snap the perspex to shape.
4) Corners can be rounded with a saw, a bench grinder, or an electric sander. You don't have to get it perfect as the frame will cover 5mm or more.
5) Remove the protective paper from the perspex and reassemble the window and Glazing Wedge as described above.
The window dust seal is the rubber strip which runs around the perimeter of the wind-out frame.
These get brittle with age and stop sealing.
1) The end of the Seal is usually held in its channel by a small squashed section at the end of the frame. The first step is to release this with a flat head screwdriver. A small amount of damage may result, but will be pressed closed later.
2) The Dust Seal should now be able to be pulled free by hand.
3) Clean out dirt from the Dust Seal channel and spray the frame and rubber with some soapy water to help the seal slide in.
4) Feed the Dust Seal in to the channel from one end. You can use pliers to help pull the seal around the channel while feeding it in from the end. Finally trim off excess, and press the aluminium down to prevent the ends slipping.
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36 Comments
John
Glad I came across this step by step guide as it allowed me to confidently remove the window and have it professionally reglazed. Prevoiusly done by a caravan repair mob who obviously did a bodgie job, so the window cracked again plus they left screws out of the vertical sides of the corner angles.
Bill
The step-by-step guide was very useful - it made replacing a winder box a piece of cake.
Lenna
Thank-you so much. I even feel confident to give it a go.
Mel
I used a jigsaw to cut my perspex...not a good move as it cracked the perspex. Hand saw would be a smarter option or ask glazier to do it... they charge practically nothing to cut it to size.
John
It describes how to remove the winder boxes (and cross shaft) but does not actually describe the steps for replacement of the winder box. It would be useful to add those details.
Ted
Yes we would like the same info as i have replaced one window box but cannot get window to close.[leaving a bout a 7cm gap] both boxes are the same length and are the arms..
tim
I saw your post about not being able to close caravan windows by about 7cm after refurbishing the windows. I have just walking in from doing 3 windows on my van - winder boxs (original and replacements) seals broken corners and with the winder arms connected none will close by about 7cm. with the arms disconnected and stowed in the winder box you can drop the window from 30cm out and it will close and actuate the window closer. So my problem is something to do with the winder box. Have you fixed yours? Could you tell me how please? thanks a heap timb
Zoe
When you purchase the window winder right hand do you get the other side with it or do I need to purchase 1 right and 1 left to fix one window?
Ric
i agree with john! needs to be more info on fitting link box and riveting to wind out arm?painful!
trevor
how to reconnect winder arm back into winder box pn a lift out caemac caravan window
Blake
If you remove/replace the link boxes then you need to make sure that the new rivets don't protrude on the underside of the window, otherwise it will stop the windows from closing all the way. i.e. don't use long rivets. I used 8mm.
Ken Bourke
How do you remove the winder arm out of the winder box, please
Terry Leslie
Camec W.A. managed to supply a sash for a discontinued window. Tremendous. This guide is perfect for me to undertake the repair. Well done Camec.
Terry
What great info and pictures we do not need to do it now to our 1975 franklin but i am going to keep it on file for future ref it is a lot better than trying to find something on youtube thank you for sharing
Aileen
There is no information on how to fix the crossbar which has come loose in the Winder Control Box on the caravan. Is it possible to give a demo, please? The right arm is hanging attached to the window. Left arm is working when being wound closed or opened.
Robert
Please update the instructions to cover the “hockey stick “ odessey winder box replacement thanks
Steve
Fantastic, was searching everywhere and then came across this, the job doesn't look anywhere near as difficult now...Cheers
George
Thank you but the window frame has been put in when new and is out of square makes it very hard to line up to lock Looks like a major job and the van is about 10 years old we have away had trouble and thought it was us George
Rob Scott
Just a handy hint on reinstalling the connecting rod between the winder boxes. The winders have to be aligned so they both work together. There is a spring in the connecting rod hole on the right hand winder box. If you push against the spring, it will allow the connecting rod to be removed from the left hand winder. Now you can rotate the right winder a quarter of a turn at a time and then slip the rod back into the left hand winder. Keep adjusting by a quarter of a turn until the winders align together. When finished, make sure the connecting rod is fully pushed into the left winder.
Gary deWall
Told me and showed me exactly what I needed to do. Thanks.
Bb
Same request re the winder box dismantle and repair
Jason
This is next to impossible , I've been trying for several days to follow these steps taking windows out no problem putting the glass back in with the seal is just impossible , ive tried soapy water just wasshing up liquid wd40 lubricant , I’ve tried running the seal with out glass running it with the glass in same result either the seal get wrecked or im lucky i do t break the glass
Cliff
Hi all, what I am chancing is who makes the Hopper, Aussie Travlller or the Camec wind out windows, As I'm not looking to buy the hole window I'm just after the male top of the window and the female that is screwed to the wall, Yes where it is hinged from any help would be great. As I have tried ringing camec themselves no help there as they only sell the windows with their name on and couldn't tell me where they get the windows from, The other places well I won't say on here what the service I got off them.
Trina
WOW, just WOW, I am new to this whole thing, this is the first actual helpful info I have come across, thank you I had/have no idea what I am doing haha, but that wont stop me.
Kent
Purchased Window Link Boxes, unfortunately they are incorrect, apparently their are two types, but you only sell one type and not the type my caravan needed - once fitted they would not let the window fully close - now I am on the hunt for the other type.
Rich
The glass seal is causing me problems... it's like trying to get an octopus into a string bag. The only part not addressed here ^^ the rest is spot on though...
shawn
fantastic job straight to the point and simple to follow,cheers.
Jane
The how to doesn't show how or where to seal the winder boxes
david
good morning. when i wind the window closed firmly the left corner pops out. is this a winder problem? we have only just bought the van recently. any advise would be appreciated. cheers dave
Lynden
Very helpful, thank you! We are needing to replace all working parts on our 1975 viscount windows and this is exactly what we needed, thank you! Our other challenge is the flyscreens which we were hoping to rebuild ourselves however we don’t seem to be able to buy the rubber trim (only new flyscreens)!
Anthony
Thanks for providing this comprehensive information and supplying the necessary parts to repair my caravan window.
Ray
Can't go past you guys, have bought items for some years and always been impressed with service. Needed to fit window dust seals have just watched your videos how to fit and was so helpful, keep up the great work, Ray
Kenneth
I had difficulty adjusting both winders to enable both edges to close. I it by closing the window and latching it, then wining both winders to the full closed position then re fixing the horizontal connecting rod. Then opened and closed perfectly
Keith
Hi , our front window winder is difficult to open up, it winds in OK , but hard to open. Is it possible to lubricate in situ, please? Jayco front kitchen. Australite winder large L & R
Howard
ok i have had a cracked window glass,dont replace glass or use perspex.poly carbon is the go easy to cut and fit can be twisted wont crack ,tough,30% dearer than perspex,but the only way to go.a glazier will do the job for you,you can also get tinted and coloured poly carbon,
Ken
Does the window have to be removed to replace the dust seal